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Post  clevelandcallum 3rd October 2011, 1:18 pm

hi guys, over the weekend i added a bi-colour blenny to my tank and tonight ive notice a white spot on the tail fin and 2 other white spots on one of the gills on one side!

what can i use to kill off the white spot and has anyone any experience with treating it!

i never had any problems with the first 4 fish i put in there one one pet store and then when i got some from nielsons marine mates on beenleigh redland bay road in comes the white spot,
perfect the doggy little marine section in the first shop i use gives me decent healthy fish and the upmarket marine specialists give me diseased fish!!!

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Post  trent@78 3rd October 2011, 2:34 pm

I agree, a mate that lives at Springwood has bought there, not any more Shocked
Most small lfs will try hard to keep you with healthy fish and pet city is reliable these days.
The white spot may settle down, if not just keep the aquarium water as good as!
If you want to there are always treatments, most are no good for corals though, ask at a lfs you trust, they will have something.
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Post  liquidg 4th October 2011, 11:11 am

The shop you mentioned letting you down with the quality of the fish, I visited it a couple for weeks back with my better half looking for freshwater fish.

These were for her new tank which is an old two footer I altered and got some glass and built a high quality trickle filter onto it so if later on she wants to, it will sustain a full on reef tank.

As she looked at the freshies I looked at the marines and more than fifty percent of the fish had either nitrate damage, stress damage, white spot or velvet, not good!

No way I would get a fish there with out it going into a quarantine tank with cupramine at four times the recommended levels as I would do and some broad spectrum freshwater fish treatment straight away for at least the life cycle of velvet-10 days.

Here are some ways to treat them in tank or out, in tank never works if it is advanced!

Quarantine in low salinity.
Keep some fresh garlic soaked in the food.
The wholesalers use cloroquin, a malaria treatment that works very well on all marine parasites, kills corals though and is hard to get.
I have herd there is one called (instant ocean life guard marine),semi invert safe.
Anything based on (malachite green), but is a little invert unfriendly.
Anything base on copper sulphate with constant testing works on all marine parasites, but it will kill all inverts.
There is (copper safe),but its not invert safe.

The best ways are to keep parasites at bay by quarantine from sus shops and have no substrate, they live in it.

I don’t get white spot at all mate and except for in the tubs, no velve/oodinium either, I do not use internal bio filtering and no substrate so marine parasites are a rarity with my set ups, but than again the shop run internet will tell you not to go that way, there is less money in this type of filtration for the shops on the net or any where really.

If oodinium shows its head in the tubs, straight away in goes some cupramine and broad spectrum freshwater treatment and its all good very quickly, I have done that once in 14 years in the tubs, so any parasites are rare in no substrate tanks or highly functional external filtered tanks.

I hope it doesn’t become a problem for you, one of the guys lost half of over a hundred fish in his massive set up recently to parasites and he tried all the cures, one not available here as well, he uses the live rock, skimmers, dosing pumps, reactors style of tank.

Oh well,hopefully your fish will be fine.

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Post  liquidg 5th October 2011, 7:34 am

Hey callum did the white spot go away if it was it?

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Post  clevelandcallum 5th October 2011, 9:15 am

Nah mate its stil on it. Theres no more spots developed but none gone away.. Should i reduce or increase feeding
reduce or increase temp.. Running around 26 oc right now.

Bit nervous tbh

anyone fancy looking at the fish for ne to give it a real diagnosis would be much appreciated

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Post  liquidg 5th October 2011, 9:38 am

If you think that it does have white spot and it is increasing, you should reduce feeding to improve water quality a little, just for a couple of days.

This I have found increases the fishes will to survive and focus on finding food and be less inclined to develop more white spot and than onto velvet/oodinium.

Keep feeding your corals as per usual, maybe use more so dried foods for fish for a couple of days, they may increase phosphate levels a little, but that won’t bother your fish.

Always leave one day a week that you do not feed your tank at all and only a tiny feed to corals that day, I give my filter a rest, as this does, on Sundays, no feeding Sundays!

The garlic thing is something I have herd from a few people, never used it myself.

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Post  liquidg 5th October 2011, 9:59 am

The white spot, if it had it from the shop may have gone, but the cists and the subsequent damage may still be there, that takes some days to repair.

If after three to five days once you get it home and what looks like white spot is decreasing or is no worse, it will most likely be fine for the time being.

Just make sure they do not gone over board with scratching against things in the tank, as time goes on, that’s the next faze, velvet!

Oh and white spot is toxic,corals do not eat it at the planktonic stage and cleaner wrasse do not eat it,they just eat the dead skin left behind once cist has burst open.

Just make sure your water is good and the shop-induced problems should go away as your water will be better than theirs.

Temp isn't needed to be changed unless there are real problems,lowering salinity helps fish but below .23 will begin to kill your corals.

I used to get sick fish real cheap in the past at shops, especially pet city and fix them and than they were fine, cheap fish if you pick the right ones easy to fix,lol.

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Post  Dazza 5th October 2011, 11:13 am

I never trust the shops always having healthy fish, look close before choosing and gotta quarantine them.

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